This is leading into two different threads… hydrogen fuel cell and what’s wrong with America..
I think we should split it so we can continue both.. (or kill one)But first two comments on both..
Great video on the topic of fuel miser… Even has a jeep as its lead character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZA-82QEOUNow for the conversation that should never happen on internet forums or in bars….
itjustmeD wrote:
There would have been factory mass produced electric & other alternative fuel vehicles out on the road years ago
First issue with this is not the technology but the infrastructure of our great country. Imagine if tomorrow president whoever decides that every American has to drive electric cars and we all get tax incentives/rebates to buy them.. ok great.. you head to work, talk about your new cars all day with your co workers and on the drive home run out of juice.. where do you fill up?? You can’t because the infrastructure of America is oil based. No fault of anybody except our American ancestors who built this great country out of the great depression. They tried this in California, failed for lack of infrastructure.. (I bought one of the old charging station signs on eBay)
itjustmeD wrote:
\'Who killed the electric car\' great documentary!
Ok Michael Moore.. same people who think were in bed with Osama and yada yada yada.. I’m not arguing whether there is truth to this or not, but think of it this way.. America spends over $25 billion a year in the Persian gulf alone, and were not buying Falafel.. Every American despite political views or anything would rather see that money HERE!!!! If you say it’s because of President Bush or the republicans.. well look at how much we spent under Clinton and still to this day.
itjustmeD wrote:
The automotive industry has been in bed with the \'black gold barons\' for decades. Cars run on gas, we pay for the gas for our cars, the oil companies make trillions off of our dependency on our needing to fuel our cars. The auto industry -> the oil companies don\'t want us to use less gas they want us to use more & more & more
Again whether this is true or not the fact is American car companies are in the game to make money, just like everybody else. If cars one day run on cupcakes they will make a car that runs on cupcakes to make MONEY!!! Ever see father of the bride, where Steve Martin freaks out because there are 8 hot dogs in a package and 12 buns in a package.. blames the CEO of each company to screw the American consumer…?!?!? Common seriously?? There is no dispute that the internal combustion engine is THE MOST EFFICENT way to power a motor car. Car companies have proven they can make cars that are small and fuel efficient.. AMERICANS as a whole DON’T WANT THEM.. we want our SUV’s and TRUCKS.. go to Europe, I was just there.. all they drive around in is small 4cyl turbo diesels that get 50MPG.. and guess who makes them FORD AND GM!!!!
itjustmeD wrote:
Record breaking oil profits, sky rocketing oil prices, while we all lose our jobs & homes - that I believe is truly wrong.
Last time I checked we live in a capitalistic society. I know for sure I’m not in business to break even. I want to make as much money as possible. Say what you want about the social ramifications, or our leaders inability to lead, but don’t shame companies for working to make a profit. And when they make too much yelling at them for cashing in.. We might be heading into a socialist regime, but we aren’t there yet. People are losing homes and jobs for other reasons than gas is too high.. and again that’s another topic..
Disclaimer:
This is my opinion and my opinion alone.. I respect differences of opinion as long as they are followed by facts.
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I would suggest that we lock this topic and move onto being constructive.. issues like this always end up bad.