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Title: more ADK restrictions
Post by: adk_tj on June 25, 2008, 10:18:54 AM
Please see http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/2359.html#Proposed_Regulations

Written comments for Part 190 will be accepted through July 5th 2008 and should be directed to:

David M. Forness
NYS DEC, Bureau of State Land Management
625 Broadway
Albany, NY 12233-4255

Telephone: (518) 402-9428 (for Part 190 only)
E-mail: lf190reg@gw.dec.state.ny.us


Of particular interest;

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(dd) On State land, no person shall sponsor, conduct or participate in any organized event of twenty or more people, except under permit from the department. Examples of organized events include, but are not limited to: sponsored hikes; archery and fishing tournaments; snowmobile; bicycle, horse and orienteering races, runs, rides or competitions (including biathlons and triathlons); encampments; and re-enactments.

(ff) On State land, no person shall sponsor, conduct or participate in advertising, weddings or film making and other such events, except under permit from the department.

Title: Re: more ADK restrictions
Post by: Dragon on June 25, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
greedy ba$tards, aren\'t they

I wonder how this provision will affect SUNY Environmental Science and Forestry schools at Cranberry Lake.

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(ee) On State land, no person shall sponsor, conduct or participate in any research project except under permit from the department. Examples of research include, but are not limited to, population studies, collection of scientific samples, placement of scientific instruments, seismic exploration and archeological studies.
Title: Re: more ADK restrictions
Post by: MrMindless on June 25, 2008, 03:24:19 PM
insanity,  again,  as usual.

Letter sent:

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To whom it may concern:

My primary concerns with the proposed amendments to Part 190 are subdivisions 190.8 (dd) (ee) and (ff).

Requiring permits for gatherings on public land is unreasonable, and it violates our constitutionally guaranteed freedom to assemble in public places.

Requirement of permits for noninvasive scientific study or research smacks of restricting access for studies that the Commissioner may not want to have done.  Things that would affect the greater usership of the parks are already covered by other provisions governing the placement of structures and so forth.  There is no need to force permits for observation or measurement in parks.

Finally, the unlawfulness of filming on public lands without permit is equally disdainful.  It is limiting perfectly reasonable access to our public access to lands that we pay to maintain.  Remember in this digital age nearly any camera can take videos, and zealous enforcement of this law could result in nearly anyone visiting our parks being in potential violation.  There is no definition of film making - anyone taking video for any reason, whether a family holiday or nature scenes for a personal or school project would need to be issued a permit.  For what benefit?  How does this needless red tape benefit those who enjoy, appreciate, and want to share the great outdoors?

Thank you for your attention to these matters.

[signed, address]
Title: Re: more ADK restrictions
Post by: MrMindless on June 25, 2008, 03:25:58 PM
I was even thinking of elementary school biology projects that I did back in MN.  I can just imagine every primary school and biology teacher in the upstate area having to pull some stupid permit every year for class projects.
Title: Re: more ADK restrictions
Post by: adk_tj on July 02, 2008, 02:34:44 PM
This would stop this crap...

Please send a letter to your state representative in support.

This bill is really important and I need to spread the word as much as possible. Please help get this out there and act on it.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A07082


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