TECHNICAL FORUMS => Project Builds => Topic started by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 10:28:13 AM
Title: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 10:28:13 AM
Well after a long day at the office I had way to much energy and stress to spare.. I got in the garage and threw my new lift and shocks on..
5\" BDS springs 5/8 MORE boomerangs F&R Bilstein 5150 shocks all round...
I will be looking for 35\"s and removing 1\" of body lift.. (currently have 2\") Need a new front DS and I might be able to skate away with getting the rear one made longer..
My rear shocks also look like they wont compress a whole lot.. I may have to move the shock tower up 1-2\"
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: Crusarius on March 26, 2009, 10:32:40 AM
that looks pretty. why didn;t you do spring over? how\'s it ride?
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Post by: gmshades on March 26, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
Lookin\' good!
I got my drive shafts done at Fleet Pride. I haven\'t been able to test them out yet, but they look solid with professional welds.
I\'d offer to take the 33\'s off your hands when you got your 35\'s, but I don\'t have the funds.
Glenn
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 10:46:24 AM
ride? Dunno.. my rear pinion angle is all out of whack.. Have to get that set before i can move it out of the driveway...
SOA.. nah.. im old school.. lot less problems with a SUA, and everything bolts nicely into place..
I never have had, or wanted a point and shoot rig.. part of the fun and skill in wheeling is knowing that you cant get over everything the way you want and picking a line that you can do.
As far as DS .... I contacted the MFG, asked him if he can do it.. waiting to hear back.
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Post by: Ryan_25 on March 26, 2009, 10:58:54 AM
Looks great.
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Post by: smichaelR22 on March 26, 2009, 03:03:02 PM
stupid question, arent the front shackles on backwards?
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on March 26, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
when you sell the 33s please let me know before you list them. ill be looking for a set
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
when the boomerangs are mounted like that in the front they act as an anti kickback shackle.. the support pin/bar will hit the frame before the leaf..
as for the tires..
the BFG KM2 are on backorder.. dont know how long.. but make me an offer.. im all ears.. they have between 80-90% tread.. no rust on the wheels.. im originally not from around here ;)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on March 26, 2009, 05:59:25 PM
i just noticed the srt in the 2nd pic...nice haha
well let me know when your KM2s come in and well chat. thanks
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on March 26, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
...i got some trimming to do first anyways :)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 06:18:46 PM
I can assure you that the only time you will ever see thoes two jeeps together is in the driveway..
they dont get along.. complete polar opposites...
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: jasonw on March 26, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
looks good Arie.
There are a couple rides comin up, my clubs in mid april and another local clubs in early may, hope to see ya at one of em.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on March 26, 2009, 09:03:15 PM
and i hope to see the SRT at some of our cruise nights
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 26, 2009, 09:14:57 PM
id be happy to waste fuel at both..
I have a short list of to do\'s to the YJ.. Steering box and alignment tomorrow... Then it should be good to put some miles on..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on March 27, 2009, 07:42:06 AM
nice!
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: MrMindless on March 27, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
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smichaelR22 wrote: stupid question, arent the front shackles on backwards?
That\'s the alternative to making bumpers like you did to keep them from inverting.
Of course in my opinion they\'re on the wrong end of the spring but that fits with the old school vibe :) Looks good Arie
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: Crusarius on March 27, 2009, 08:37:18 AM
the theory behind the shackles on the front make sense to me but so does shackle reversal. either way does work I think it gets down to personal preference.
usually shackle reversal gives you alot smoother ride but then you need super long splined driveshaft to keep from pulling it apart on droop.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 27, 2009, 08:42:04 AM
Ive been thinking about a shackle reversal for years... never pulled the trigger.
I have been driving and wheeling with the standard for years... I know how the jeep handles, pros and cons... I feel if I do the reversal I will need to \"learn\" all over again..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: smichaelR22 on March 27, 2009, 12:14:29 PM
lets not get into a shackle reversal debate, that wasnt my consern...
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on March 28, 2009, 09:47:33 AM
ok.. some initial driving impressions...
Floaty as hell... I now understand why people keep their sway bars.. I may be looking into returning mine under the jeep..
turns and even going strait are a bit scary.. when I jump on the throttle it wants to steer itself..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: carchameleon on March 28, 2009, 10:12:42 PM
i know how you feel, i don\'t have sway bars, my shocks (3)are worn out (1)is broken... my springs are all worn out too leaf springs are fun, haha
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
as is the story of my life nothing is ever easy... got my discos today and went to install... they are short.. long story short, both quadratec and JKS can not figure out what the problem is.. I got the ones for a jeep with 2.5-6\" lift.. I have a 5\" BDS kit..
They are 5\" short of the suggested 5deg variation of the sway bar for horizontal.
I installed them anyway.. helped a bit.. still a little loosy goosy in the steering.. not so much a return to center of the wheel issue, just loose.. I replaced my steering box a while ago.. may need to be tightened?
Il try and get some pics of the sway bar up ...its worth getting another set of eyes on it..
I also got my caster angle measured.. im at 5.2deg.. I have read many different \"good\" angles from 4-6 to 7-8... anybody can shed some light?
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 07:20:23 AM
pics
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: MrMindless on April 02, 2009, 07:50:59 AM
put up some fullsize pictures, I can\'t see a thing in those thumbnails....
loose steering can be any of a million things. Get someone to saw back and forth on the wheel and look at everything in front and see what shouldn\'t be moving that is. Can be the steering shaft or box, any rod ends, ball joints, spring bushings, loose ubolts, bad bearings or a few other things. Looks like you\'re not running a track bar anymore? With the taller springs that may be needed to get real tight steering back, but I\'m no YJ expert.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 08:08:05 AM
All steering, Box, bearings are new within the last year.. and I saw little miles due to engine swap and winter..
Good idea with the steering test thought.. Balljoints are the one thing that I didnt replace..
However, steering was ok with my previous springs.. they were stiff as hell though..
The only X factors are the springs and the new steering box.. This is why I am quick to blame one of them as the culprit..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 08:10:08 AM
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: MrMindless on April 02, 2009, 08:21:38 AM
Looks like those discos are the perfect length for a springover :-/
I\'d probably take the easy route and just weld a plate with a bolt to the top or front of the axle (wherever it lines up for a flat swaybar) and go that route. Or you could just lengthen the arms and keep them where they are, but moving them up would keep the ends from getting beat up on rocks as a nice benefit.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 08:46:06 AM
I was thinking that... if I do a U bolt flip on the front it should be perfect.. but the whole issue being JKS sells these for YJ\'s with 6\" of lift.. my jeep isnt a red head or a stepchild.. so what gives?
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: MrMindless on April 02, 2009, 09:23:47 AM
You\'ve got me. Ubolt flip would be another good way to go, and would gain you an inch or two in clearance for the cost of 4 ubolts. I think you can just swap the plates side to side on top, right?
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: meangreen on April 02, 2009, 11:07:12 AM
no he will probably need to make some new plates for it. Is the drivers side u bolt on the pumpkin? if so it will take a lot of work to do it correctly. I have seen blocks that were placed on top of the leaf spring agianst the axle tube and u bolted into place for the sway bar and for the shocks to keep them out of the way.
You can also cheak your angle from the pitman arm to the axle if it is to much of an angle it will cause that \"loose\" feeling too. my cj did that untill I went to a drop pitman arm. also your steering stablizer may also need replaced.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 02, 2009, 12:54:32 PM
Big update.. BDS makes a 13\" Disco and bracket.. Im back in business.. Anybody need a pair od JKS discos 10.5\" test fitted.. $80
Im sure i can send them back.. but just incase..
Stabizer is a new OME unit.. and I already have a drop pitman arm on there from my last lift..
Ill see what the propper links do.. it might help more than I think
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 22, 2009, 09:24:54 AM
Update..
BDS links are in and steering box has been tightened.. MUCH BETTER...
I can actually dirve it down the road and feel safe..
.. even better update.. My new BFG\'s have shipped and will arrive tomorrow.. I should have the new rubber on the jeep by the weekend..
I will for sure post pics..
Next topic.. PROTECTION... Im thinking I need a front cage.. thought ir suggestions? I like the MORE bolt in cage for the front of the YJ.. but Im not opposed to custom built..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: smichaelR22 on April 22, 2009, 09:47:43 AM
make friends with Ryan or Cora, they both have very nice benders if your into fab work...
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 23, 2009, 08:24:59 AM
ohh I will deff be looking into that... A cage is always something I wanted to design and build.. but ill be honest.. my welding skills (and current equipment) is not what it use to be..
I can only get 110 in my garage, so I sold my old 220 welder.. Im welderless and as soon as I get the jeep on the 35\"s it wont fit in the garage anyway :)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: GTJake on April 23, 2009, 08:33:31 AM
air down....it should fit that way :)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on June 30, 2009, 05:50:10 PM
OBA and Dual battery install to be finished and posted this week with any luck..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 20, 2010, 08:21:56 AM
Finally got around to finishing up my OBA setup.. funny what a little nice weather will make you accomplish..
Some pics bellow.. taken with my Blackberry, so not the best quality... but good enough.. Have cab controls now, independent from the ignition, so I can fill the tank on the go.. Tnaks mounted right in back... since I done normally have a backseat its not a problem, and I still have room for two plastic totes or a cooler etc..
I haven’t seen anybody ever use the glove box before as a mounting point for gages and switches, I think it’s rather ingenious if I don’t say so myself..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: ollllllo on April 20, 2010, 01:00:45 PM
Looks good!
What size is the compressor? I\'m interested to hear your feedback on it as you use it more. I\'m debating on installing a york under the hood or going electric.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on April 20, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
its a viair constant duty.. runs VERY WELL..
I had an engine driven compressor (still have the brakets for a 258) hated it..
Its nice to be able to run tools, air up, or whatever without the engine being on..
I can think of a hundred reasons where I might need air and wouldnt or couldnt have the engine running..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2010, 07:30:39 AM
I decided it was time for a bit more protection in the YJ.. It’s still not a fully welded cage, won’t pass any regulation laws etc.. But in combination with the stock bar and the little extra gusseting I gave it, I’m sure this will be fine for anything I will encounter.. With color match paint, some NOS Almond roll bar pads I have been saving it looks stock, well kinda.
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Post by: CoraC143 on June 14, 2010, 11:31:53 AM
Do you have hard doors? Can you still roll the window down?
The guy I bought my CJ from tied in the cage then said \'whoops\' when he went to roll the windows down. He fixed the problem by buying YJ doors with power windows and rigged up an electrical plug for the doors.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2010, 12:46:52 PM
ive had power windows since 1999... :) Thats when I DD the thing..
I hardly drive it anymore with the top/doors on.. but its nice to have the option when the skys open up.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on July 06, 2010, 07:24:00 AM
threw the aussie in my rear end friday afternoon...
Took all of 45 min..
Didnt drive it all weekend, but took it out last night and this morning.. its like learning to drive all over again.. traction is %100 better than stock, cornering is interesting.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: smichaelR22 on July 06, 2010, 08:33:06 AM
ya, you will learn to roll into corners and not mash the gas off the line into a turn :)
power applied = spool :)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on August 19, 2010, 07:01:00 AM
Started to tear down my front suspention for all my upgraded fixes... Short list includes..
U bolt flip JKS slickrock spring hangers OTK steering (1.25\" tube Mood Ends)
Also just tore out my fan to make way for the new one.. no biggie there..
I also noticed in some pictures that my front brake lines might be a tad to short.. Is there anyplace to get custom SS brake lines made?
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: MrMindless on August 19, 2010, 07:32:59 AM
Troyer might be able to help you out.
I bought a nice set at Rausch Creek a couple years ago. Just used the second one of the pair so I need to replentish my spare stock too....
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: CoraC143 on August 19, 2010, 07:38:25 AM
http://www.classictube.com/
Great to work with, they will make anything. Custom stainless hoses are quick, and you can pick up in Buffalo.
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: JCJ on August 19, 2010, 07:42:05 AM
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Is there anyplace to get custom SS brake lines made?
A cheaper way to go is order the line and fittings and assemble them yourself. I\'m happy to help if your\'e interested in going that direction..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on August 19, 2010, 07:54:03 AM
once I get the front end back together and welded.. I will take it down to the warehouse and cycle the suspention w and w/o shocks... (forklift)
I want to see if either the brake lines or shocks are limiting the suspention travel..
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on August 27, 2010, 07:04:22 AM
Drilled and reamed my knuckles... waiting for the links to come today...
They are in bare steel so I dont know if I will be able toget them dialed in...
U bolt flip is in...
Just need to get my hangers burned in for me... my wife wont let me play with fire. :)
Title: Re: My YJ...
Post by: rejeep on September 05, 2010, 08:20:40 AM
